seems like I somehow managed to send this twice.
On 05.11.22 20:23, Marcus Müller wrote:
> Hi Roland,
>
> On 05.11.22 14:00, Roland Schwarz wrote:
>> Unfortunately it seem I put the cart before the horse by having submitted a bug request
>> about something I expected to work but now find needs more thought.
>
> Ha! "I, as a user, am in a reasonable expectation that something should work, now I
> figure it doesn't" might also indicate that some things might be in need of better
> documentation!
>
>> I hope this mailing list is the right place for discussion.
>
> So far it's been a fantastic place :)
>
>> HackRF One is a device designed for half duplex operations, this is why I believe it is
>> safe to assume it will be able to do burst transmissions on a hardware level.
>
> There's a TX amp/RX amp/bypass switch (U12/U14), controlled by the logic, which could
> indeed be used for rapidly switching off TX.
>
>> Unfortunately the gr-soapy driver, which implements burst transmission which will work
>> with UHD (at least I have been told so), don't work with the SoapyHackRF driver to do
>> burst mode.
>
> I guess what that means is that when the Soapy sink is in tagged bursts mode (you set a
> length tag), it will set the the SOAPY_SDR_END_BURST flag at the right point after a
> length tag, before sending the samples and flags off to the underlying device driver.
>
> UHD knows how to deal with that; there's a mechanism to transport that "OK, and after
> that last sample of this sample packet, you stop transmitting" info from PC to do device.
>
>> So far I have not found a description or even mentioning of burst mode in the soapy
>> driver model documents. Since I was told the gr-soapy driver will work with UHD I was
>> looking for a SoapyUHD or the like, but there is none.
>
> Dunno where you look, but at the place where JBlum keeps his SoapySDR, he also keeps his
> SoapyUHD:
>
> https://github.com/pothosware/SoapyUHD
>
>>
>> I found
>> Soapy BladeRF Sink
>> Soapy Custom Sink
>> Soapy HackRF Sink
>> Soapy LimeSDR Sink
>> Soapy PLUTO Sink
>>
>> however not Soapy UHD Sink. What am I misunderstaning here?
>
> These sinks are just "convenience sinks". SoapySDR is a plugin architecture: there's
> just actually one block, the Soapy sink, and it doesn't know which hardware you have, or
> how to talk to that – but you can install plugins for SoapySDR that actually know
> hardware, and then you can stream to that hardware.
>
> These inidividual sinks just "pre-fill" all the configuration so that this type of
> device is used, and that the device-specific settings are done.
>
>> Has anyone already considered burst mode or has experience with any of BladeRF, LimeSDR
>> or PLUTO drivers?
>
> No experience on my side with TX bursting.
> But, source code tells me the SoapySDR driver for HackRF does support handing down the
> "end of stream" information to the device:
>
> https://github.com/pothosware/SoapyHackRF/blob/4e40fa19fa3b64f335d48ce112859acbaecee6c4/HackRF_Streaming.cpp#L386
>
>
> So, should work the same as when using a USRP instead of a HackRF.
>
> Best regards,
> Marcus
>
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