Wednesday, October 16, 2019

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Request for Wiki update.

On 10/16/19 4:42 AM, Marcus Müller wrote:
> 1. A very honest: Thank you for the feedback!
I'm glad you took my criticism in good stride. Thank you for your work
on GNUradio and I hope my feedback will help a bit in making GNUradio
even more accessible
> We are aware that installation of our ca. 400000 lines of code project
> is non-trivial, and that we've been so busy releasing 3.8 that we
> couldn't keep up with installation instructions. I'm honestly sorry
> about that, but it's not easy on us, either, though we've made stellar
> progress in the last couple of years.
That was the advice I gave in my last mail: don't release until
everything is ready, including the documentation. It will prevent a lot
of confusion and reflector posts like this, hi hi.
> 2. You (specifically) shouldn't be in a position where you need to
> compile things from source code or use PyBOMBS to build it. You want to
> use GNU Radio, not develop it itself (for now). New users wanting to
> try GNU Radio are the last people I want to compile GNU Radio from
> source. That'd be plain stupid. This isn't the 90s.
> Unless you really can pinpoint why you need 3.8 instead of the 3.7.13.4

gr-satellites is the reason. The maintainer is working on version 2.0,
which is a complete rewrite which only works on GR 3.8 with python 3 and
I want to stay on top of that. gr-satellites also suffers from the same
malady of lack of documentation. I already wrote on a good install guide
for version 1.7 on GNUradio 3.7 for Kubuntu, but since 1.8 is the last
old-style release I want to focus on 2.0. Luckily Daniel has opened a
Wiki on the github repository of gr-satellites and after my initial
install guide there are now others working on new guides for
installation. After that I want to write some user guides for newbies of
gr-satellites (like me) so that more people can decode telemetry with GR.

@Barry Duggan KV4FV: thanks for your install instructions. I'm not
installing on a RPi, but I've printed out your instructions for
reference. Cheers!

@Nate Temple: Thanks for the information. I will consider applying for
an account to edit the GR Wiki.

@Silvain Munaut: the last piece of software I compiled and installed was
simply make, make install and it worked. I can't recall every having to
do a sudo ldconfig after a compilation/install. But then again, I can't
really recall how I used to compile kernels, because that has also been
a while ago. Do you remember? I'm not offended by your reply, but maybe
next time have a little more empathy and maybe a constructive answer to
add to the discussion. And btw, "half a day" was of course a metaphor
(not the GNUradio compilation time, because that was literally half a day).

QRT now. Tomorrow another day in which I hopefully will succeed in
installing GR 3.8.

Hans

BX2ABT


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