Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] [USRP-users] Getting a -135 dBm/Hz noise spectral density in USRP N210

You are exactly right! We were using TX/RX antenna port in the WBX receiver daughterboard. I get almost -170 dBm/Hz noise spectral density when I select RX2. This is almost perfect!

Thanks! Your email increased my pathloss calculation range by 30 dB :)

Nazmul

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Jason Roehm <jasonr@3db-labs.com> wrote:

Do you have the correct antenna port selected? I believe that RX2 is the default for the SBX. If you are injecting signal into the port that isn't selected, then you'll see ~30-40 dB of isolation in the front-end antenna switch. That seems to be in the neighborhood of the difference that you're seeing.

Jason

On 06/27/2012 01:51 AM, Nazmul Islam wrote:

Hello,

I am trying to measure channel path loss using two USRP N210. I need to measure the noise floor so that I can find the threshold for pathloss measurement. I am using the attached flowgraph to calibrate the receiver signal strength. I tried two ways to calibrate the receiver power and both show me approximately -135 dBm/Hz noise spectral density.

1. At first I don't transmit anything and measure the power of the floating point numbers that is coming out of rx USRP block. Then  I transmit a PN sequence of -5 dBm power at 17 MS/s from an USRP. I connect this USRP through a 60 dB attenuator to the receiver USRP. This input (-65 dBm) seems to double the power of the floating point numbers. I infer that the my USRP noise floor is equivalent to -65 dB at 17 MHz.

2. I also apply an external 1 MHz noise source of -75 dBm power to the receiver USRP. This leads to an increase of 3 dB power in the receiver FFT plot. This also suggests I have -75 dBm noise power at 1 MHz.

Both these experiments suggest -135 dBm/Hz noise spectral density in my rx USRP. However, this is very far from theoretical noise spectral density (approximately -170 dBm/Hz). My Rx USRP N210 has a WBX daughterboard and my Tx USRP has an SBX daughterboard. The ettus websites suggest only 6 dB noise figure (http://code.ettus.com/redmine/ettus/documents/16). If my USRP daughterboard is not faulty, I must be giving some wrong parameters. I put the RX gain as 30 dB to get the full range of WBX daughterboards (http://files.ettus.com/uhd_docs/manual/html/dboards.html). Shall I increase it more?

Thanks for your help.

Nazmul


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Electrical & Computer Engineering
Wireless Information & Networking Laboratory
Rutgers, USA.

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